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 Post subject: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: April 29th, 2015, 7:41 am 
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I have one here for work and it's the biggest POS ever. Like a Tec22 with the Winchester name on it.

Horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: May 4th, 2015, 2:38 pm 
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I'd really like to get this ancient POS fixed and out of my hair.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
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I would but I'm not local. Mine is in 22 short and seems to work fine. I'm surprised you're having so many problems with it. I've messed with Tec22 before the firing pins break constantly.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: May 5th, 2015, 6:03 am 
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I also have a 74 in .22 short and while I live in AZ I am down here below Tucson so I am not much help either.

Is it something some pictures could help with?


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: May 5th, 2015, 7:29 am 
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I've got one a customer of a fellow gunsmith brought to me.

It was missing 75 bucks worth of parts. Parts acquired and installed...but now the thing will fire once, chamber a new round, but the sear is not cocked, so you have to manually cock the rifle again, ejecting the new round and then the newly chambered round will fire. Lather rinse repeat.

The sear and the "timing rocker" both look like they are aftermarket stamped affairs. The rifle has the shittiest mushiest trigger. I'm wondering if I put something together wrong or if this is just a POS.

PLUS, the customer is UP MY ASS about it, apparently this is the finest .22 rifle ever made or belonged to his Great Grandpappy which makes it "the most important .22 ever made".

I'm at the point of giving up, because at this point I have to start replacing and fitting other parts to resolve this cocking issue, and many of the parts for these old 74s have to be hand-fitted with a file. This, to be blunt, is not cost-effective. This guy says "spend what it takes" but I doubt he seriously wants to pay me 3 or 400 dollars to hand fit sears and strikers. It's a slow and tedious process.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
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And yes, pictures of the action out of the stock, with particular attention to the arrangement of the trigger spring on the lower end.

And the timing rocker, timing rocker screw, timing rocker spring arrangement on the top end.

I mean seriously, the trigger axle pin is THROUGH THE WOOD STOCK! A horrible design.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
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OK, I finally dug it out of the safe and took the action out of the stock to take some pics. I hope these work intially as I wasn't really sure what I was looking at. I figure you can use the pics to focus me on what you need more of.

Pic of the trigger in the stock. Never realized there was no trigger return spring, it just sits there and rotates on a pin inserted into the wood stock as noted.

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The next three photos are of the "sear" firing bar or whatever it is called and it is what I think you need to look at. As I said, direct me from here about what you need. I still have it broken down and can take more pics.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: May 8th, 2015, 7:45 am 
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There actually is a trigger return spring.

Now I'm even more unhappy because it looks like I got everything together properly, and it's not working right which means that many more frustrating hours will be required on this hunk of poo.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
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I looked online at Numrich Gun Parts website. They have a schematic for this and list all the trigger parts for sale. Don't know if this will help you out or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone got a Winchester Model 74 I can look at?
New postPosted: August 16th, 2015, 9:41 am 
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They're all "some fitting required". I could have bought this guy a working used one for all the time I've spent on it so far.

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