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 Post subject: AK47 feeding problem
New postPosted: August 8th, 2017, 2:27 pm 
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OK, so I bought an AZEX rebuilt Yugo M70 from the board that came with no mags.
I figured no big deal, mags are a dime a dozen, and an AZEX build is guaranteed solid.
So I find 6 pack of mags on gunbroker that say fits Yugo, blah blah blah, and a host of other names.
Magazines come, I clean out the cosmoline, and they seem to have a decent finish for used surplus mags. I could post pics but I don't think the finish is the issue.
So I get the gun out, and with half of the mags I've tested, the gun fails to feed.
I take it to a friend that tinkers with it good and we find out that the mag catch seems a CH too short. When the mag is pulled back, like if you use it for a foregrip handle, the bolt catches great and the round feeds fine. So we've pretty much settled on a short mag catch with too much movement when the mag is locked in.
But we do a little experiment, and put my mag into his AK, which by the way is an expensive, no slouch AK. My mags don't move as much in his and the bolt catches the round great. So now you think it's that DAM short catch right?
But we say what the hell, let's try his mags in my gun. His mags let the rounds feed fine in my gun!!!!!!
Now before I go drilling on my riveted mag catch, and try to replace it, I rather try one last ditch and try an AK Pmag, never had a problem in the past with them.
So..... his mags work in both guns, and my mags only work in his guns. Would posting pictures help at all?
BTW, I didn't even consider trying to contact AZEX, as I hear he has disappeared and is traveling all about the country....Could be a rumor I guess though.
Toss out some theories gents, I know there's some AK aficionados out there.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
New postPosted: August 8th, 2017, 2:33 pm 
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I have a couple pmags for the ak if you want to try them out or I could sell them if they work, they're just collecting dust in a drawer since I don't currently own a 7.62 ak.
As for theories, I would need to get my hands on it and fingerfukk it a bit to make any real theory.

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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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yeah I had this problem on a couple of my new mags, its not your gun
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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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Yeah, It's definitely not a tight problem


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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Check the mouth/front of the mags to see if they look the same as a Pmag. If the metal is a little too high, it could be catching slightly on the casings.
Had that problem with some AR mags in 7.62x39. Used a dremel type tool and removed some of the metal to make more room for the rounds to
travel out of the mags. Work fine now.

Or buy some quality mags and move on.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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I would try some other mags. I'd be really surprised if AZEX botched that part of the rifle.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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6 surplus magazines, and they all have so much slop the bolt can't catch a round?

Nooooooooooooooooope.

Grab a US Palm, those have big fat tabs on the magazine. If you still have some slop, you know for sure you have to replace your mag catch.

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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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I would go with a new mag release. That way most mags would fit.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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Are you sure the mag catch is fully seating on the mag, if you force the mag catch the opposite way does it lock tight. Sometimes the thickness of the coating on the rifles parts does not allow it to fully engage from just the spring pressure. But its hard to diagnose wthout pictures.

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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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h8pvmnt wrote:
Are you sure the mag catch is fully seating on the mag, if you force the mag catch the opposite way does it lock tight. Sometimes the thickness of the coating on the rifles parts does not allow it to fully engage from just the spring pressure. But its hard to diagnose wthout pictures.

Well it does make a very positive click when engaged, if that's what you're asking. I bought a pmag, and it hand cycles great every time, catches every round. I'm going to see if shooting is the same story, although I don't see why not. I tried those mags in a RAS-47 and they hand cycle better, but it still hit and miss. So I'm nearly convinced it's the mags.
I'm going to look into the US palm as previously suggested.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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US Palm is out of business, so they aren't a viable option moving forward.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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BigBlueandGoldie wrote:
US Palm is out of business, so they aren't a viable option moving forward.

I only recommended US Palm for troubleshooting. They usually fit very tight. If the OP still has slop with a US Palm magazine, then he for sure has a bad magazine catch.

I don't know if Magpul AK magazines have this issue or not.

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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
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BigBlueandGoldie wrote:
US Palm is out of business, so they aren't a viable option moving forward.

Well DAM, I looked at reviews and with the exceptions of their first gens, they started getting it right, and most reviews were favorable. however these were a few years old. They are still available at Primary Arms for $12.95. Even though I won't be beating these up, I guess I'll stick with the Magpuls.


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 Post subject: Re: AK47 feeding problem
New postPosted: August 22nd, 2017, 10:09 am 
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weenis wrote:
BigBlueandGoldie wrote:
US Palm is out of business, so they aren't a viable option moving forward.

I only recommended US Palm for troubleshooting. They usually fit very tight. If the OP still has slop with a US Palm magazine, then he for sure has a bad magazine catch.

I don't know if Magpul AK magazines have this issue or not.


The Magpul mag allowed 100% hand cycling, I will go with these


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