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 Post subject: H380 powder and .223 loads
New postPosted: 17 Jan 2009, 12:13 
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Anybody got load data for H380 in .223rem with a 55gr FMJBT? For a 16" barrel, 1/9 twist Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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From Modern Reloading by Richard Lee:

55 gr. jacketed
H380 powder start grains: 28.5 and NEVER EXCEED also 28.5.
3,082 fps 37,800 CUP pressure.

Sounds like a poor choice of powder for the application.

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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
New postPosted: 17 Jan 2009, 12:28 
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Ya my preference is H335 but hard to find. Got a chance to score 8 lb of the H380. Probably why no data for this powder and 223 on Hodgden site. may just hold out in hopes of comming across some H335. Any other more available powders that would work better? Thanks, and thanks for that data.

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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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If you feel the need for a ball powder, BL(C)-2 will work as well. It also works great in the M1A.


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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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Thanks John, I was considering the BL(C)-2 as well but again availability is key. How about H322? Anybody use that for .223? The Hodgdon site has reload data for that and it seems to be recomended for .223 rem. just wondering if anyone had used it and how well it meters thru a powder throw. I know where I can get a few pounds of that for the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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tqilatalkn1 wrote:
Thanks John, I was considering the BL(C)-2 as well but again availability is key. How about H322? Anybody use that for .223? The Hodgdon site has reload data for that and it seems to be recomended for .223 rem. just wondering if anyone had used it and how well it meters thru a powder throw. I know where I can get a few pounds of that for the moment.


I personally have not used H322 but given its burn rate, I'd liken it to be the ball powder equivalent to H4198. That said, it should work fine for 52g / 55g bullets but I would caution away from using it with heavier bullets in a gas gun.


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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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I actually REALLY like the AA 2520, meters VERY VERY well and overall has provided me with very tight groups. Granted it's for 60-65 gr bullets or more, but it's very good.

For say 55 grain bullets I go with AA2230, again another smooth powder that meters very well.

Never tried the H380, and didn't like the results from the H335 or the H322 that i have tried. Didn't meter all that well, and burn rate was a bit too fast for me.

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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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Keep it simple: find one medium burning powder and use that for all bullets you are likely to encounter. I use Varget. It works fines for everything from 55g FMJBT to 80g Sierras and Hornady Amaxs. RL15, BL(C)-2, H335, AA2520 and H4895 are all acceptable alternates. Trying to keep track of which powder goes with what bullet is too much like work and detracts from more important things. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: H380 powder and .223 loads
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Good advice John. Thanks everyone for the input. Gave up on trying to find any H335 around here,and ordered 8lb from MidSouth shooters supply. Got their last 8 pounder. It's even hard to find online these days. Buy the time I paid hazmat and shipping it comes out the same as retail here but at least I will have enough to last me a while and I can stick to one recipe. And that's what I have been using with good results.
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Keep it simple: find one medium burning powder and use that for all bullets you are likely to encounter. I use Varget. It works fines for everything from 55g FMJBT to 80g Sierras and Hornady Amaxs. RL15, BL(C)-2, H335, AA2520 and H4895 are all acceptable alternates. Trying to keep track of which powder goes with what bullet is too much like work and detracts from more important things. ;)

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