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I'll start this thread with what it would cost lo make your own M193.




http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item ... 81|301|338
1,000 55 grain M193 FMJ bullets
$48

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item ... 78|282|290
1,000 pieces new Lake City Brass
$28

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item ... 78|284|314
1,000 Winchester small rifle primers
$17.85

From TM43-0001-27
28.5 grains of WC 844 (H335 is the commercial equivalent)

1 pound = 7,000 grains so we need roughly 4 pounds of powder.

http://wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|283|313

WCC44 $75 for 8 pounds. $37.50 for four pounds.

So we are looking at about $131.35 less shipping to load 1,000 rounds of M193 5.56 using new components.

That's 131.35 for the 1st 1000 rounds. You can subtract $28 for each of the next 4-5 batches of 1000 rounds since you already have the brass.

So you are looking at 103.35 per 1000 for the 2nd and subsequent reloading using that brass.

Not to mention components are always available. Loaded M193 is scarce at best.

How many times can you safely load the brass to .mil pressures? Replacement brass will be a cost too.

http://dillonprecision.com/reloadingsaving.cfm?dyn=1&cookieClean=1

I think this is close on.

this is what it cost me a few years back (last time I computed the cost) to load my target loads for .223 and .308

Costs of reloading as of Mar 29, 2002

Varget, 8 pounds is 110.95 =6.5% sales tax = 118.16
1 pound = 14.77

Bullets .223 = 77.00 + 6.5% Sales tax = 82.005 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 77 Grain.
Bullets .308 = 110.00 + 6.5% Sales Tax = 117.15 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 175 Grain

Primers Sm Winchester Rifle = 15.95 per thousand
Primers LG Winchester Rifle = 15.95 per thousand
IF CCI (7.62 NATO) #34 = 16.95 per thousand

Brass .223 , new, Winchester = $130.00 per thousand
Brass .308, new, Winchester = $200.43 per thousand

.223 .
.0517 24.5 grains POWDER .
.1641 BULLET .
.0160 PRIMER .
.2318 SUB TOTAL. (already own the brass)


.2818 With Once Fired Br. .

.3618 WITH NEW BRASS




.308
POWDER .0928 44.0 grains
BULLET .2343
PRIMER .0160
SUB TOTAL.3431 ALREADY OWN THE BRASS

With Once Fired Br. .3931

WITH NEW BRASS .5435



HTH
Bob

Overall, it's better to custom load ammo that's made for your own gun. I've been reloading for 20 years now, and even if it costs more than factory or bulk ammo, I'd still prefer loading my own ammo because of better accuracy.

Here's a cute little cost per round calculator.


http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

That's cool. Thanks.

It really solidifies why I reload.
.223 Cost/1000 = $108

The only thing that the cost calculators don't take into account is your time, and the f***ing AGGRIVATION when your piece of shit DILLON priming system keeps sticking, or the GOD DAMNED powder bar keeps sticking.

sadas

tag

I had the same problems with the primers hanging up before I learned how to clean the primer system.

If you take off the spring and pull the primer bar thingie out and clean it with alcohol it works pretty much all the time.

Thats wierd, mine always works. Now it's going to f*** up on me tonight.

So does anybody know if the powder listed by IB at the start of this thread is really the commercial equal for XM193? Is that charge right as well?

someone should update thread with modern prices. considering the major ammo hike