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Surprise police: Woman pulls gun over dog park incident... WTF lady !!!

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A woman pulled out a gun when a dog started to smell her dog while they were at a Surprise dog park on Friday, officials said.

At the park near 14600 block of West Paradise Lane the woman pulled out the gun and pointed it at the male owner as well as the dog. The woman told him to get his dog away, said Sgt. Mark Ortega, police spokesman. The man pulled his dog away and left.

No one was injured, Ortega said.

The man was not able to provide a description of the woman to police.

The case was still under investigation on Tuesday.

Alright -- which one of you crazy bitches did this?

I go there all the time with our pooch. Never seen a lady open carry but have seen a couple dudes on occasion.

I mean, if you bring your dog there, you gotta know they might get into it with another dog. It happens. WTF?!?!

Since the Great Gun Rush of 09 happened, we are now going to see more and more stupid news reports like this, from newby gun owners who don't realize the great responsibilities that come with carrying a firearm.

And them the hammer comes down on the evil gun owners.

Once at a local dog park, my 12-year old mix and 2 year old mix were "gang-rushed" as usual at the "airlock"...while uncomfortable for my dogs (the old one is a little slow and the smaller one doesn't like being gang-rushed), they get over it quickly once inside...it's making that initial open-space for my dogs to get in.

So, here I make the space by backing up the other dogs and as soon as my older dog steps in, some guy's large rottie mix runs over and pounces my older dog, holding her down by the throat.

Yeah, this isn't your typical "Hey, a new dog!!" routine. So I am reaching in, along with my wife, to get that dog off. While he's not doing the dead-rat shake, he's certainly not in any hurry to get up...and he's eying us a little weird. As soon as I saw that my hand reaches back behind my flannel overshirt and next thing I know I have my hand on my firearm. Luckily, before I could pull it, and before anyone saw anything, I let it go, just as the dog's owner, who we saw just standing there watching, told his dog to get off. I really did think that his dog was about to turn on my or my wife.

The only thing that kept me from shooting this man's dog was that it would require paperwork, be a PR mess and I might miss and hit my dog. Luckily there was no injury, but plenty of fur. Ultimately, it wasn't this dog's fault...it was his owner's.

Next time...IF...we go to the dog park, the 27" ASP comes along. That way I have another option. However, I am unsure just how that would have gone over if I had started whacking on this dude's dog with a baton. That's one reason we doubt we'll go back...there's just no real satisfactory method for protection that won't get you in trouble or cause more problems than it might solve.

Does anyone know if OC works on dogs? I know that the stuff mailmen carry/used to carry was OC-based, but I don't know if the formulation was different.

I cannot stand people who cannot keep their dogs under control. If they're not, they have no business being at a public dog park.

Bitch is lucky she didn't get shot by someone like me....If I'm at the dog park and the dogs are playing and you draw down on me..you better be ready to dance....stupid c***!

the media has shifted gears.


Prepare for a onslaught of reports such as this one to flood the airwaves... they're going to try and discredit law abiding citizens w/ firearms...

And they're going to succeed.

The man was unable to give a description? Does that sound a bit....off to any one but me? Perhaps it will come out that the whole story was fabricated?

But it could be as true as this statement.....




DebraF

Get a cattle prod.

There is a certain social edicate unique to dog parks, wherein most all the regular attendees have an unspoken agreement that it is everyone's responsibility there to keep an eye on all the dogs present. On more than one occasion I have been the closest human when a couple dogs got into a fracas, and even though I had no stake in the matter, I've inserted myself into the furball to break it up. Sometimes this has required a bit of roughness on my part. Only once have I ever encountered a dog owner who objected, and he wanted to duke it out with me because I merely grabbed his dog by its collar and dragged it away from victimizing a much smaller dog.

This is why (at least in Surprise) we have 2 different areas fenced off from each other; one for dogs under 30 lbs. and all others.

In my experience, it is usually successful to simply talk to the owner of a dog that is out of line and explain to them in no uncertain terms that you have absolutely no qualms about kicking the shit out of their dog if it misbehaves again. I've actually had to do it once, and the dog owner even appologized to me about my having to do so.

Not that my dog is all that great either. As an only pooch, she has a problem understanding that the water is to be shared. I can't just let her go get a drink by herself because then she'll try to secure the water as all hers and no one else's, and will growl and snap at other dogs who try to get a drink. Whenever I see her headed to the water, I have to follow and supervise. I often have to grab her by the collar and jerk her away so others can get a drink. Behavior issues like this are no big deal if the owners act conscienciously (like I do) and keep their animals in check. It truly is an owner problem, not a dog problem.

Except from that report, I saw nothing law-abiding about it. There was no attack, no fear for her life, etc. Another reason, in the back of my mind, I didn't draw on that rottie-mix.

i pocket carry when i take toby to the dog park but we just don't go anymore b/c its not fun. and not for the crazy people there, its bc toby doesnt get it. he is a 130 mix and a big dopey idiot. but he also doesnt realize that he is a dog. so he doesnt get the whole playing with other dogs thing or butt sniffing or chasing each other. he climbs up on the bench next to me and watches the dogs almost in the same way i do. after a while he gets bored, pees on something and then he just walks to the gate and waits for me to get the hint...

the big plus side to this is he is also not aggressive with the other dogs and is kind of a wimp and backs out of any confrontation. i like that they separate small dogs from the big dogs bc it does keep down on fights, and much like children, people think their dog is never to blame when fights happen.

Why people bring their dogs to public places and expect everyone elses' dog to play nice is beyond me. I kinda figured it was common knowledge that dogs fight eachother, not in every encounter, but it happens often enough that a reasonable person who owns a dog would figure there is a decent chance of a fight between stranger dogs meeting for the first time. If someone wants to take a dog around other dogs carry some sort of dog repellent, like pepper spray, every time and you shouldn't have much to worry about.
I think the only need to bring a weapon would be for the other dogs' owner.

When I go for a walk in my neighborhood (suburbs) I bring a telescoping baton for any dogs and my .45 for the owners. Only had to bring out the baton once, the dog figured out what was going on pretty quick and went back to the owner. I didn't even have to smack the dog, just show intent to fight and the dog decided he didn't want to fight after all.
The owner called me an a-hole but that was all he did and everyone went home just fine.

I still don't understand why people want to force dogs to live in town, sucks bad enough for us humans and it's just plain cruel to make dogs live cooped up like that. To each their own.

I wonder if they're talking about the dog park next to the Library and the Tennis center? If so, I take my kids to that dog park (staying outside the fence) to let them see the dogs all the time. Hmm.