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 Post subject: LEARN IT ~ KNOW IT ~ LIVE IT
New postPosted: April 16th, 2017, 11:16 am 
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Backpage selling and trading tips

Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:06 AM

1. Pictures help sell.
If you argue with this you are really hopeless. Potential buyers don't want to have to give out their email or cell phone number just to get pictures. Many of us who have been around the block understand that condition is in the eye of the beholder and that ads without pictures are sometimes scams to collect contact information for spam marketing.

2. Evaluate price then set your price carefully.
Before you shotgun a price out there, check some sources (especially backpage) to see what others are asking for the same item. Many of us simply paid too much for our item and expect too much because of the price paid. The market is the market and when your item sits for over a month then something about your ad doesn't attract potential buyers. It could be the price. Items without prices run the risk of less exposure because the old school attitude out there is "if you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it". No price or trade value for some people means you expect too much.

3. Trade only ads.
It helps to set an expected trade value. When you don't post a $$ value most people just assume you want too much and don't bother trying to make a trade. Even more important, you should have a realistic trade list. Reposting your ad to the top every 2 hours isn't going to make a difference if you are too stubborn with a small list of trades wanted. It blows me away sometimes when I see someone put up a "trade only" ad but have a ridiculous trade list of items that very few people have...and even if they did have it would not want to trade for your item!

Another trade tip - Most people don't want to "downgrade" but everyone wants to upgrade. Offering to downgrade with cash, ammo, extras to make up the difference appeals to many more traders than them having to downgrade to your item. If you have a package of items you may need to break it up in order to get a trade done. Less value means a quicker sale/trade.


4. Repost every 2 days minimum.
Buyers most of the time have a set amount in their budget for a purchase. If they see something they like before seeing your ad then you missed out on a potential sale.

5. Be clear.
It amazes me how many people think OD and FDE are the same thing, lol. Seriously though, every detail you can possibly think of will help sell your item. Manufacturer names, model numbers, etc. are extremely important for a buyer to determine their own personal value.

6. Try to think like a buyer.
In your mind you may have posted a great deal...and it may be a great deal for that particular item. However you must also consider what else is for sale in the same price range because that is what most buyers do.

Example: Bushmaster XM-15 for sale $1000. What other choices are there for AR-15 at $1000? Colt, BCM, Spikes, S&W Tactical, etc. Is someone likely to give you $1000 for a mid level rifle when they can buy a more advanced level manufactured rifle for the same price brand new? Probably not, but there is a sucker born every minute :)

Just because you have a $30 red dot, a sling, case, and 200 rounds of steel cased ammo does not put you in the same class to most buyers.
On that note, personal choices for add-ons don't bring back full value. If you're lucky you'll get back 50% of what you paid for add-ons. Some people just did not think it through when they bought their base rifle. They will buy $200-$300 worth of furniture and not realize they could have bought the same rifle with magpul furniture for $100 more to begin with. Now you're upside down in the rifle.

7. Understand trends
One example: .40 caliber popularity goes down more every day. Many people with .40 are looking to transition to 9mm. This dramatically lowers the value of your .40 because of this huge migration. There are tons of .40 handguns being dumped everywhere. This flood in the market drops the value tremendously. This means you are probably going to take a serious loss. Trading may be the better way to go but understand that you probably can't be that picky. Sometimes you need to trade for something you may not want but will be easier to sell than your item. If your goal was to get rid of your item for the most return value then this might make the most sense. If what you are being offered in trade is easier to sell than your item and you are being offered a fair difference then it's mission accomplished.


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 Post subject: Re: LEARN IT ~ KNOW IT ~ LIVE IT
New postPosted: April 19th, 2017, 8:14 pm 
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f*** backpage and don't forget your 500 foot radar

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 Post subject: Re: LEARN IT ~ KNOW IT ~ LIVE IT
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Yeah I don't buy off Backpage any more. Too much that could go wrong and few real deals.


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 Post subject: Re: LEARN IT ~ KNOW IT ~ LIVE IT
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Personally, I'm not a fan of the 'infomercial' posts on the backpage. Condescending screeds about 'how to post' are way more annoying than someone that is actually posting something for sale.

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About 20 minutes ago I picked up a cz SP-01 safety model for $500. Guy even brought his original receipt to prove he bought it on 4473. We both signed a bill of sale with no real identifiable information on the bill. Overall I'd give it a solid 2 thumbs up. Beats out some of the transactions I've had through other boards.


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 Post subject: Re: LEARN IT ~ KNOW IT ~ LIVE IT
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It may be condescending to you, flash, but I actually got a couple of things out of it.


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